Silica Spray Procurement Woes

Howdy Mirai family,

I recently watched some of the videos hailing the positive effects of silica and wanted to get some since I have a couple of trees showing some signs of stress. Eden’s blue gold silica was mentioned specifically by Ryan as being highly recommended by Apical. I went to Apical’s website and saw they only offered what I guessed would amount to a lifetime supply for me, so I tried to find it elsewhere. I went to Eden’s website and found they sold a smaller bottle there. However, when I went to check out I kept getting a google captcha error. I’m real google, trust me. After many frustrating failed attempts to checkout I decided I’d go back and get the big bottle from Apical. It’s supposed to be the bees knees after all, right? But then I kept getting errors popping up during checkout on Apical’s website too! Anyway, I ultimately gave up on Eden’s Silica and I got some Silica Gold off of Amazon.

So I was just wondering… 1) has anyone else had so many issues getting Eden’s products, or is it just me? And 2) has anyone used the Silica Gold stuff before and have anything positive or negative to say about it?

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I have gotten a few items straight from the Eden blue gold site. The customer service is really helpful, maybe try just giving them a call?

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Good to know. I tend to do all my shopping after normal business hours. Too busy during the day. I should have just been patient and e-mailed them though.

BlueGold® Silica (OMRI Listed) – BlueGold® by Eden Solutions (edenbluegold.com)

$26 for 32 oz. I literally just bought a bottle. Try using Chrome as your web browser as recommended.

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Try bluegoldgarden website
Consumer size products
No Google error
Are you using Safari?

I’ll try that. Thanks! Was using safari yes.

Page 2 in plant products
Has this
BlueGold® Pure Silica (Clear Pure Si02 Raw Quartz
It has applications rates on the bottle which the commercial products don’t have clear applications rates for home use.

I have had trouble with Safari on their commercial web page as well, it works when it wants to

Most products are available in 32oz sizes and this website always works with Safari

You can also call them, they are very nice people

I have not used this product specifically but I am seeing great results with the products I am using

Heed their warnings about synthetic inputs and NPK products because it makes water wetter it will make everything in your soil rush into your plant, so if there is a excess of fertilizer in your soil, you could see issues

Trying to figure out if these products can be combined with Bio Gold myself and at what application rates

So good luck in your adventure
They are extremely effective products so I would start with a low dose and proceed with caution

Best of luck to you!!

FYI

I was speaking to Eden today and in reference to trees in general they said.
Trees love silica
Maples are 20% silica
So their silica can be applied once per week as a foliar spray
Again that was in reference to their silica because they know what is in it!!!

I am just throwing that out there
If it helps someone out that is great

Always use caution and start on your garden, plants or cheap trees first!!

Peace :peace_symbol:
CP

Can you drop a link to their silica

Continuing on this discussion you clearly know more that I. As far as silica goes can you look at TPS silica vs. Blue Eden ingredients listed below and tell me your thoughts and how in deffers from the blue eden silica. From what i can see Blue Eden Gold has a nutritional value of
0-0-0 with Saponins and Silica Dioxide. The TPS silica has a nutritional value of 0-0-1.3 says its derived fro. Potassium silicate not sure how these 2 derivatives of silica differ or if TPS would cause damage.

Thank you for your input maybe ill try both on different plants and see, what happens.

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Share your results!!

I would like to remind folks that a salt is the combination of an anion (negative charge) and a cation (positive charge). Salts are the primary way that most of the different nutrients are absorbed by our plants since they are the most water-soluble form. For silicon and most other metals to be absorbed by the plant they will have to dissolve in water as a cation and associated anions to maintain charge neutrality.

The problem is that some common salts contain cations and anions that can build up to toxic levels in the soil and plant. Na+ and Cl- are two most common, but Mg2+ and Al3+ also seem to be an issue based the Mirai nutrition discussions.

Finally, individual cations and anions are not salts. They are the components of various salts. The three major nutrients, N, P, and K, have to be present as cations for the plant to absorb them. They are often fairly tightly bound in most of our organic fertilizers and soil microbes have to break the compounds down to release them as nitrate (NO3)-, phosphate (PO4)3-, and K+ cations.

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Thanks for the insight

I bought the test but have to send in the foliar sample still trying to work out how to get the sample there without it being in the mail for 5 days

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Sample sent to apical. Do you know how long the Eden silica mix is good for once you mix it. I mixed a gallon but still have some left.

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Hello Sir,

My understanding is most things are good for 15-30 days once mixed, and kept out of the sun.

Shoot me a private email and I will forward a screenshot of a conversation with Eden about silica use in general. Things to expect & to watch out for etc.

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Prepping my first samples now.

Interesting interface on their website!!

I couldn’t add multiple tests to the cart and it makes you pay for each test individually which seemed like it could be improved on but it will be cool to see what is going on inside my trees.

I sent my through usps 2 day in a small flatrate box I got from another shipment. Cost of shipping was about 11 dollars so about 100 dollars total for the full work up plus shipping on 1 sample.

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