# Yamadori worth it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Beginners\ **Created:** [April 27, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781 "2020-04-27T15:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tamino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Tamino](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Tamino)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/1 "2020-04-27T15:18:19Z")
During my last walk I stepped over some quercus robur that where torn appart by the forest cleaning brigades. Do you think they have any value as bonsai material? Number 1 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/7/70eee1dd33feccaa2acde24a99fd0d99fb585cc4.jpeg) ! Number 2 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/3/35e6c0844e6105162853c3f31d7b1b6440ffef0d.jpeg) Number 3 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/7/7351666ce8a89e14d3cc1f52481dbea58aa1a64d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AndyK](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/andyk/32/2330_2.png) [@AndyK](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/AndyK)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/2 "2020-04-27T17:36:38Z")
Hi @Tamino Looks like they have the age. Do you have the vision? Oak can be tricky to collect if it has a big tap root. ---
**Author:** ![KurtP](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/kurtp/32/16188_2.png) [@KurtP](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/KurtP)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/3 "2020-04-27T18:47:45Z")
Wow! You need to hire a new cleaning crew… ( I know Germany requires civilians to clean a designated forest patch…) . Take a digger tool, ax and saw. Expect a long root. . The tap root on any older wild oak will be meters long. Get enough fine root hairs for the tree to survive. . I have lifted 10 year old field (acorn planted) oaks and cut waist long tap roots. Even my seed grown potted oaks have long tap roots. I cut after the second year, and hope for the best. . Now’s the time! Take photos! ---
**Author:** ![Ralph](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/ralph/32/43408_2.png) [@Ralph](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Ralph)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/4 "2020-04-28T16:27:37Z")
Hard to say without seeing the base. But definitely worth scraping away some soil and moss to get a good look at it. ---
**Author:** ![antelion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@antelion](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/antelion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/5 "2020-04-29T08:14:49Z")
Hello Kurt, just fyi. there is no mandatory forest patch cleaning by civilians in Germany. ---
**Author:** ![KurtP](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/kurtp/32/16188_2.png) [@KurtP](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/KurtP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/6 "2020-04-29T15:10:52Z")
OK. My Austrian informant is probably 60 years out of date…🙄 . I wish our ‘capitalistic corporation’ style of forest management here in the US Pacific NW would be a little more carefull. Almost all of the old growth forests are gone. It’s only about the profit… . Working on my oaks today! Restyling a 20 yo forest. Have not leafed out yet. Bonsai on… (Oh, I LOVE spellcheck…) ---
**Author:** ![KurtP](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/kurtp/32/16188_2.png) [@KurtP](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/KurtP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/7 "2020-04-29T20:20:27Z")
Not crazy good, but, 20+ yo oak (what’s left) forest. New Japanese pot. Acorns, Utah oaks. Quarcus robur (?). No leaves yet. . ![20200429_131138](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/e/e0db50160b87fcd75a1cb04fbe388f8f8abbb8e7.jpeg) . Voles n mice got three… No loggers were involved… ---
**Author:** ![Forestcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/76d3ee/32.png) [@Forestcat](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Forestcat)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-worth-it/5781/8 "2020-04-29T20:23:34Z")
Very nice little forest you’ve got going on there!