# Yamadori Pines w/ New Growth **URL:** \ **Category:** Beginners\ **Created:** [June 10, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815 "2024-06-10T12:32:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paulie7285](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Paulie7285](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Paulie7285)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/1 "2024-06-10T12:32:38Z")
I dug these up this year, and they seem to be doing well. Today I noticed these things on the tips of the candles ![1000001392](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/3/f/3f6684e698f8854724cd4e8a4f5d5f91f62836bc.jpeg) ![1000001393](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/a/a/aa2cf0109246ca15c39ab80632dee947d5dea8e8.jpeg) ![1000001394](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/0/9/0966b908701c979ff9852b97039a4265c653d68d.jpeg) Are these another flush of candles (which is what it seems to me)? Or maybe pine cones? And more importantly, does this mean the trees are hao and healthy? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![MartyWeiser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@MartyWeiser](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/MartyWeiser)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/2 "2024-06-10T16:32:36Z")
Did they already push out new spring growth? If not, my guess is that these are this year’s spring growth which is a bit weak and late due to the tree being dug. I repotted a couple of pines this spring that had been neglected for several years in their boxes that that is how they are behaving. ---
**Author:** ![Paulie7285](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Paulie7285](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Paulie7285)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/3 "2024-06-10T16:44:13Z")
Here’s a picture from shortly after i dug them up… i was assuming that they had already pushed me growth, but I’m new the pine trees ![1000001270](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/e/a/eaa481cd0b899d4b9f7dc0fa40d3cd4d260542ed.jpeg) Those short needles have all become much longer ---
**Author:** ![MartyWeiser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@MartyWeiser](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/MartyWeiser)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/4 "2024-06-10T17:11:40Z")
I agree that those look like the spring candles. Do you know what type of pine? Some will push a second growth - some reliably, others in response to a change. ---
**Author:** ![Twisted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Twisted](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Twisted)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/5 "2024-06-10T17:22:15Z")
I have had young vigorous Scots pines puch twice in the same season before. This looks like the same thing. I have a photo somewhere from 4ish years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Paulie7285](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Paulie7285](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Paulie7285)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/6 "2024-06-10T22:03:32Z")
They are apparently Short Leaf Pines ---
**Author:** ![MartyWeiser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@MartyWeiser](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/MartyWeiser)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/7 "2024-06-10T22:37:41Z")
Short leaf pine (P. echinata) has the same basic range as loblolly pine (P. taeda) and will hybridize with it - hybrids look more like short leaf pine (Wikipedia). Mirai lists P. taeda as multiflush pine so I am betting that P. echinata would be a multiflush pine at least one that will multiflush part of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Paulie7285](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Paulie7285](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Paulie7285)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/8 "2024-06-10T23:25:17Z")
Yeah, i read that i thought the same thing. So, as per Randy Knight (Night?), I haven’t touched it as far as pruning or bending, and it can still double flush? Also, is this a good sign (or maybe stress related? ) ---
**Author:** ![MartyWeiser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@MartyWeiser](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/MartyWeiser)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/9 "2024-06-11T00:54:40Z")
I am guessing a combination of stress (being dug) and good growing conditions (oxygen to the roots and any fertlization you may have done). ---
**Author:** ![Paulie7285](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Paulie7285](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Paulie7285)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/10 "2024-06-11T04:27:33Z")
Well, I take that as encouraging then! Thanks for your replys ---
**Author:** ![Kurt](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/kurt/32/14060_2.png) [@Kurt](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Kurt)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/yamadori-pines-w-new-growth/11815/11 "2025-07-05T03:21:01Z")
If that yamadori is a Shortleaf Pine (Pinus echinata) then the light blue-green flush is a secondary or tertiary flush that can emerge from needle nodes as well as dormant buds back on old bark (like at the base of the trunk). I have been collecting this species for some time now and that is very normal behavior from them. SLP’s are not exactly double flush, they are multi-flush. I have had as many as 5 flushes in a season, and three flushes is quite common (in my region, SW Missouri). Here is a link to a thread on the species | [Pinus echinata | Short Leaf Pine | General Inquiry](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinus-echinata-short-leaf-pine-general-inquiry/7003) Also, here is a video from Bjron Bjornholm working on one of my SLP Yamadori that was shown at the 2023 US National Bonsai Exhibition | [Bunjin Pine Bonsai - Experimental Techniques | Bonsai-U](https://youtu.be/Ii84hGvlF_0?si=wGDNX4vGQibQxyUh)