# The scariest day

**URL:** <https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335>\
**Category:** Design\
**Created:** [October 14, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335 "2019-10-14T14:04:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![antelion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@antelion](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/antelion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335/1 "2019-10-14T14:04:47Z")

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Today had the scariest day of my (admittedly short) bonsai life.  
First major design work on a tree. Always a challenge to remove yet the next branch.  
Question is rather remove too little this time and come back or go all in and develop from pared back design?  
Some more wiring in Apex and then i might have the courage to post the result.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/6/624348ce5f458e7423ccf53c471873dbf50681a3.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![MtBakerBonsai](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/mtbakerbonsai/32/23909_2.png) [@MtBakerBonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/MtBakerBonsai)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335/2 "2019-10-14T14:54:32Z")

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Thats a lot of foliage!  
Do you have a before picture?  
What is your plan for winter care?

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**Author:** ![antelion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@antelion](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/antelion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335/3 "2019-10-14T14:57:41Z")

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ha, now it gets even scarier.  
joking aside. Before and after will follow.  
the past 2 winters were extremely mild, so if we get another one the tree stays with the rest moved together and protected from wind. If it gets colder everyone who needs it will move in cold storage with ample light.

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**Author:** ![antelion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@antelion](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/antelion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335/4 "2019-10-14T15:18:56Z")

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The before

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/d/d14b182b0e63ef2b14279ba61e41a6fa95cffa59.jpeg)

And now

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/2X/c/c4fefdd8c2166048bf834a7fc8534e1c2afaf191.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![MtBakerBonsai](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/mtbakerbonsai/32/23909_2.png) [@MtBakerBonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/MtBakerBonsai)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335/5 "2019-10-15T15:00:18Z")

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What is your plan with the apex?  
I am seeing it being brought to the right and down, it looks a little disconnected from the rest of the tree way up there.  
Do you have access to copper wire?  
You will have greater success moving branches with larger gauge and less wire.

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**Author:** ![antelion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@antelion](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/antelion)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/the-scariest-day/4335/6 "2019-10-15T20:40:56Z")

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it is already brought further down than in the picture. I am debating if i take out the foliage below it and then bring it still further down to the trunk. the whole trunk comes all the way back to the elbow. As the trunk becomes quite straight and “young” there it does not fit too well to rest of the tree.  
Thank you for the tip with the copper wire. This is my first styling/wiring exercise and thus i started with too small diameter and then ended adding to that.