# Texas pinyon pine **URL:** \ **Category:** Horticulture\ **Created:** [January 31, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282 "2022-01-31T06:10:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sam24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sam24](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Sam24)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/1 "2022-01-31T06:10:29Z")
I recently bought 3 small Texas pinyon pines (pines remota). They are apparently a rare form of pinyon that grows in small parts of the Texas hill country. I found them at a small nursery that specializes in propagating hill country native plants. I would like to make bonsai with some but am apprehensive because of root sensitivity. The man I bought them from said the roots are very sensitive. To the point that he said when planting cut off the bottom of the pot, sit it in the hole, and slide the rest of the pot off so the roots are not disturbed. Does anyone have any experience with this species or other pinyon species with sensitive roots and have any advise? ---
**Author:** ![Makuen-amer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/makuen-amer/32/12616_2.png) [@Makuen-amer](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Makuen-amer)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/2 "2022-02-02T03:55:27Z")
I’ve got two two-year-old seedlings from seeds collected at the Grand Canyon. They are about 2.5 inches tall. I hold my breath every time I walk past them. My assumption has been that the challenge for me (in Dallas) will be to get them sufficient dormancy to remain healthy. ---
**Author:** ![chitown\_bonsai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chitown\_bonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/chitown_bonsai)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/3 "2022-02-07T01:51:30Z")
Sam, Would you mind sharing the name of the nursery? I’d love to see what they have in stock. Joel ---
**Author:** ![Sam24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sam24](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Sam24)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/4 "2022-02-07T14:03:53Z")
[www.nativesoftexas.com](http://www.nativesoftexas.com) ---
**Author:** ![chitown\_bonsai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chitown\_bonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/chitown_bonsai)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/5 "2022-02-09T18:50:59Z")
Very much appreciated Sam. I need to do some Texas themed Kumamono to go with my Texas live oaks. ---
**Author:** ![Sam24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sam24](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Sam24)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/6 "2022-02-09T23:31:04Z")
Speaking of Texas live oak. I have a lot of escarpment live oak on my place, Quercius fusiformis. I assume that is what you have? I was wondering if you have had any luck collecting or air layering? Collecting seems tough because of the rock/caliche/soil here in the hill country. I have a few branches that look like good candidates for air layers but not sure how the oaks will respond to that. Any tips? ---
**Author:** ![chitown\_bonsai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chitown\_bonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/chitown_bonsai)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/7 "2022-02-23T02:54:49Z")
Sorry, all my oaks are grown from acorns so I’m just starting to wire them. We need a live oak (fusiformis) thread to capture any knowledge that might be out there. I think you’re only the second person I’ve met trying to bonsai this species. ---
**Author:** ![Sam24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sam24](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Sam24)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/8 "2022-02-23T15:43:34Z")
Good idea. I might try to get that going soon. ---
**Author:** ![Makuen-amer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/makuen-amer/32/12616_2.png) [@Makuen-amer](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Makuen-amer)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/9 "2022-02-24T16:06:46Z")
I actually had some good luck air layering some live oaks about 20 years ago. The trees were beginning to show some promise as bonsais, when they became infested with [galls]. ([Quick Tip: What are those Round Growths on my Live Oak tree? | The Masters Lawn Care](https://www.themasterslawncare.com/blog/quick-tip-what-are-those-round-growths-my-live-oak-tree#:~:text=These%20'weird%20little%20balls'%20are,is%20insects%20that%20cause%20them.)) I got so many galls I had to destroy the trees. The only other problem I had is that the trees were a larger leaf variety, and I never was able to reduce them. If I get a chance I will give them another try. They should be suited to North Texas climate. ---
**Author:** ![Sam24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sam24](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Sam24)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/10 "2022-02-24T16:34:56Z")
I was planning on starting the air layers after the new leaves garden off. How long did it take for yours to be ready to seperate? ---
**Author:** ![Makuen-amer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/makuen-amer/32/12616_2.png) [@Makuen-amer](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Makuen-amer)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/11 "2022-02-24T16:49:33Z")
I think it took a year. Roots sprouted in one growing season, but I didn’t separate it till the following spring, after leaf drop. ---
**Author:** ![moon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/moon/32/24444_2.png) [@moon](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/moon)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/12 "2022-02-24T18:11:46Z")
How large were the branches you had success with? I’m very interested in trying this in the coming Spring… ---
**Author:** ![Makuen-amer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/makuen-amer/32/12616_2.png) [@Makuen-amer](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Makuen-amer)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/13 "2022-02-24T18:16:26Z")
2 " diameter and 1" diameter. ---
**Author:** ![moon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/moon/32/24444_2.png) [@moon](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/moon)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/14 "2022-02-24T20:12:44Z")
So still the smooth juvenile bark as well, or had it begun to plate/flake at all? ---
**Author:** ![Makuen-amer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/makuen-amer/32/12616_2.png) [@Makuen-amer](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Makuen-amer)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/15 "2022-02-25T00:04:30Z")
As I recall, it was more alligatored/plated than smooth ---
**Author:** ![BigCountryBonsai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@BigCountryBonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/BigCountryBonsai)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/16 "2026-05-01T21:03:01Z")
I’ve collected a few Quercus fusiformis and every one has survived. Depending on how the material looks I’d be happy to show you my technique in exchange for keeping a tree I dig. Here’s my most developed fusiformis collected in 2020. ![DSCF0867](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/b/1/b10d672f73c314ba2bdf2803237769144a4317c9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sam24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sam24](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Sam24)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/17 "2026-05-08T18:52:49Z")
I am interested. Can’t guarantee really awesome material but should be some decent stuff. Are you in the Austin area? What time of year is best to collect them? Sam ---
**Author:** ![BigCountryBonsai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@BigCountryBonsai](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/BigCountryBonsai)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/18 "2026-05-11T23:52:51Z")
I’m an up north west near Abilene but visit friends in Austin periodically. We could see if our schedules can align at some point. Pm me and we can exchange info if you want. ---
**Author:** ![StephenV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/stephenv/32/44146_2.png) [@StephenV](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/StephenV)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/texas-pinyon-pine/9282/19 "2026-05-11T23:59:22Z")
Wondering if they would survive near College Station. I grew up in New Mexico and would LOVE to have a Piñon Pine. We are significantly wetter and more humid where I am, curious how they have adapted to survive n the TX hill country. I always assumed we did not get enough chill hours down here for them to survive.