# Securing Trees on the bench using the hole of the bonsaipot? Possible? does somebody has any experience?
**URL:** https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214
**Category:** Design
**Created:** [March 5, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214 "2020-03-05T10:12:51Z")
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### Author:  [@stone](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/stone)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/1 "2020-03-05T10:12:52Z")
Hello folks,
we fix the bonsai to the pot with wire. Than we fix the tree and the Bonsaipot on the bench like Ryan has shown on his video. “securing trees…”
Is there somebody outside how is using a onther system? Were we don’t see the rope? Maybe there a pots with special anchor downsite the pots, where we can fix the pot on the bench???
Thanks
christoph
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### Author:  [@antelion](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/antelion)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/2 "2020-03-05T16:41:03Z")
if you would secure it that way you would end up the tree potentially starting to move within the pot.
One option is to thread a piece of galvanised steel through the pot in reverse to the anchoring of the tree. But the you would need to be able to secure this to your benches which would only work from below or with gussets to the side.
Not sure that is the most practical approach though,.
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### Author:  [@Bonsai\_Bentley](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Bonsai_Bentley)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/3 "2020-03-05T18:23:39Z")
My solution was to use black paracord. It doesn’t stand out at much as the white nylon. I don’t have very large pots/trees, so weight isn’t a problem. I toyed with the idea of using a series of L-brackets, but I didn’t like the idea of metal pulling down on the lip of the pot.
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### Author:  [@stone](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/stone)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/4 "2020-03-06T07:38:19Z")
thanks, i also have tryed the same thing with the l brackets, but i also don’t want do destroy the pots…
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### Author:  [@stone](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/stone)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/5 "2020-03-06T07:39:16Z")
could be a possible… thanks for your input…
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### Author:  [@Jeramiah](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Jeramiah)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/6 "2020-03-06T12:30:34Z")
Take a look at this video from Ryan. [https://live.bonsaimirai.com/library/video/securing-trees](https://live.bonsaimirai.com/library/video/securing-trees)
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### Author:  [@stone](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/stone)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/7 "2020-03-06T19:00:21Z")
Already done…
Thanks
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### Author:  [@Brad](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Brad)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/8 "2020-03-06T21:47:26Z")
I have heard tell of locks that pass through a drainage hole and secure to the bench for high value trees. Might check google if that sounds interesting.
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### Author:  [@Jayhawk](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Jayhawk)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/9 "2020-03-07T07:28:37Z")
Circa ‘80s Bonsai Today
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### Author:  [@PutItInTheGround](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/PutItInTheGround)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/10 "2020-03-07T07:59:23Z")
Found it! [https://www.bonsaioutlet.com/secure-bonsai-pot-potlock-c-033/](https://www.bonsaioutlet.com/secure-bonsai-pot-potlock-c-033/)
Who is an engineer, can we do better than this? Willing to pay. I think it should be a double bar system with two opposing bars in a drainage hole.
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### Author:  [@ssundfeld](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/ssundfeld)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/11 "2020-03-07T08:05:26Z")
wow! where did you find this gem?? lol! I love this sort of things, old, esoteric stuff you can’t easily find with a google search (unless you found this on a google search first page lol).
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### Author:  [@ssundfeld](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/ssundfeld)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/12 "2020-03-07T08:06:39Z")
What are the exact mechanics of this? does it secure to the rim of the pot??
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### Author:  [@Blown55](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Blown55)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/13 "2020-03-07T13:42:15Z")
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### Author:  [@Bonsai\_Bentley](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Bonsai_Bentley)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/14 "2020-03-08T03:22:06Z")
It appears that you’d insert it from the top of the pot before you put the plant/soil in. Then you’d secure it from under the bench. You’d have to line it up with a gap in the bench though. Good idea. I’m interested to give it a shot just for funsies.
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### Author:  [@PutItInTheGround](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/PutItInTheGround)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/15 "2020-03-09T08:15:39Z")
This is the simplicity I’m thinking about. I love it. Does anyone know/have best practices for drilling additional holes into ceramic pots?
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### Author:  [@Bonsai\_Bentley](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Bonsai_Bentley)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/16 "2020-03-09T13:24:21Z")
You can get diamond drill bits on amazon. It takes FOREVER to drill it though and it’s so loud. I don’t particularly like doing it.
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### Author:  [@cab\_lad\_70](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/cab_lad_70)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/securing-trees-on-the-bench-using-the-hole-of-the-bonsaipot-possible-does-somebody-has-any-experience/5214/17 "2020-03-10T03:06:40Z")
re: drill bits
I just watched a video where Ryan recommended a ‘tile bit’ for drilling ceramics. He kept the area flooded with water to control the heat.