# Pinion disease or pest problem

**URL:** <https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinion-disease-or-pest-problem/10895>\
**Category:** Horticulture\
**Created:** [September 11, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinion-disease-or-pest-problem/10895 "2023-09-11T21:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![John\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@John\_W](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/John_W)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinion-disease-or-pest-problem/10895/1 "2023-09-11T21:59:00Z")

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Hello, Mirai. Wondering what this is on my pinion pine. We just had a bunch of rain in CO, so maybe it’s fungus? Scale? Grasshopper saliva? I don’t know. But the terminal buds are suddenly mostly gone. What do I do? Thanks!

 ![IMG_0689](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/2/1/21a5bcdbbf4111755086da62147ea13ceb1baf39.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Roger\_Snipes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Roger\_Snipes](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Roger_Snipes)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinion-disease-or-pest-problem/10895/2 "2023-09-13T00:12:28Z")

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Hard to tell for sure from the picture, but maybe Wooly adelgids aphids? If that’s it a systemic would be the quickest way to take them out I think.

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**Author:** ![John\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@John\_W](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/John_W)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinion-disease-or-pest-problem/10895/3 "2023-09-13T00:26:16Z")

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Great, thank you! Any product recommendations?

Could this be just the natural waxy cuticle and not bugs at all?

John

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**Author:** ![Roger\_Snipes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Roger\_Snipes](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Roger_Snipes)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/pinion-disease-or-pest-problem/10895/4 "2023-09-13T00:46:51Z")

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No, that’s not normal. I have a pinion Pine and it has never had anything that before. The go-to systemics are either imidacloprid or acephate.