# No Mame at Mirai

**URL:** <https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/no-mame-at-mirai/2492>\
**Category:** Toolbox\
**Created:** [February 3, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/no-mame-at-mirai/2492 "2019-02-03T12:28:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![darren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@darren](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/darren)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/no-mame-at-mirai/2492/1 "2019-02-03T12:28:31Z")

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Hi, new member here!

Just watched one of the shohin videos and noticed Ryan made a point of mentioning that we don’t talk about mame at Mirai. Just wondered out of curiosity if there was a reason or story behind that?

As I said, just curious really 🙂

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**Author:** ![nmhansen](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/nmhansen/32/114_2.png) [@nmhansen](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/nmhansen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/no-mame-at-mirai/2492/2 "2019-05-28T18:41:39Z")

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I can’t speak for Ryan or Mirai, but my guess is that the work vs reward for mame is so small that it isn’t worth the time.

The smaller the tree gets, the smaller the margin of error is and the shorter the windows to do specific scopes of work are.