# Black pine design

**URL:** <https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/black-pine-design/9398>\
**Category:** Design\
**Created:** [March 5, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/black-pine-design/9398 "2022-03-05T03:44:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![pacificnw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@pacificnw](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/pacificnw)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/black-pine-design/9398/1 "2022-03-05T03:44:09Z")

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Looking for design ideas.

I have this Japanese Black Pine with nice bark and trunk movement.

Looking for input on how to proceed with next phase of design.

Now:

 ![IMG_7589](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/2/3/23af27e5d72fbb481a3f47f51614ad2c776c61d7.jpeg)

Option 1: Get rid of the middle-left branch and highlight trunk movement

 ![op1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/0/1/01fb36a897df121736e1ae6377bc75a28acdc18c.jpeg)

Option 2: Make it informal upright (sort of S style)

 ![op2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bonsaimirai/original/3X/f/5/f51006cefe75e2be24955813a0cde8a05bbdded7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Forestcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/76d3ee/32.png) [@Forestcat](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Forestcat)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/black-pine-design/9398/2 "2022-03-05T14:01:49Z")

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Nice tree! I like option #1 better. Needle pluck in June and do the heavy styling in the fall.

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**Author:** ![pacificnw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@pacificnw](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/pacificnw)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/black-pine-design/9398/3 "2022-03-09T08:55:50Z")

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Thank you! Forestcat

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**Author:** ![Eastbayvet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@Eastbayvet](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Eastbayvet)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/black-pine-design/9398/4 "2022-03-09T11:28:01Z")

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I am no expert but I would find your best nebari then find your best base to tip movement. If you’re lucky they will both work together the tree naturally moves to left so I would reduce on right and remove Amy threes and fours and bars. S curves are to be avoided. Very nice tree. Good luck