# Birds Nest Spruce

**URL:** <https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743>\
**Category:** Beginners\
**Created:** [July 23, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743 "2019-07-23T09:09:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Twisted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Twisted](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Twisted)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/1 "2019-07-23T09:09:38Z")

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I bought a field grown Bird’s Nest Spruce at the weekend. It was lifted in the spring or last autumn and only just beginning to push new growth at the moment. It is still in it’s field soil beneath a single layer of fine gravel. As far as I know it’s not native to the UK. I was wondering if anyone has experience with them and if they have any nuances that set them apart from other Spruce?

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**Author:** ![Bonsai\_bob](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/bonsai_bob/32/35621_2.png) [@Bonsai\_bob](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Bonsai_bob)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/2 "2019-07-23T17:15:50Z")

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> [@Twisted](#):
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> nuances that set them apart from other Spruce

My profile photo is a bird nest spruce.  
They need to be treated carefully when you style or wire. The branches are brittle and I broke either completely or half way 3 branches.  
The link shows what we did to make it look more alpine. Your spruce has an upright apex which makes me wonder why? Usually a nursery plant is pretty horizontal and resembles a bird nest… hence their common name. The roots are pretty exposed so your nebari is pretty well determined.  
I have mine in pumice/lava/ akadama and it has wintered well in my very harsh climate outdoors.  
See the photos of the progression. A side note, the pot in the photo broke from freezing and had to be repaired. I currently have the tree in a hard fired pot.

> [@Picea abies 'Nidiformis,'](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/picea-abies-nidiformis/854):
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> I finally redid the spruce I use as my profile picture! I was tired of the flatness of the birdnest spruce and wanted it to be a mountain tree, so I took it to work on with Todd Schlafer. I think it is on the way![100\_1714] so I and Todd had to slog through a snowstorm to get to the rural location of the workshop.[100\_2278] And after some barter of a bamboo round for some rebar… the design is close to what I wanted.[100\_2286] I like the color of the carbon steel, it fits in well with our desig…

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**Author:** ![AndyK](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/andyk/32/2330_2.png) [@AndyK](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/AndyK)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/3 "2019-07-23T18:16:39Z")

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Hi @Twisted,  
If its only pushing now I would be very gentle with it until next spring. Bit of shade, don’t let it dry out and moderate fertiliser.

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**Author:** ![KurtP](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/kurtp/32/16188_2.png) [@KurtP](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/KurtP)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/4 "2019-07-24T03:37:51Z")

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Somebody did you a great favor… it’s mostly already styled. Very good choice!

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**Author:** ![Kellogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@Kellogg](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Kellogg)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/5 "2019-07-24T14:25:57Z")

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living in texas this has been one of dream species to work on but never encounter. obviously not meant for the texas heat but man do i wish it could have one.

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**Author:** ![Twisted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@Twisted](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/Twisted)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/6 "2019-07-24T22:04:29Z")

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@Bonsai_bob Thanks for the tips. I bought it from a bonsai nursery and the guy who owns it probably has grown it from seed as 99% of what he sells is homegrown. I suspect that’s why it’s more upright and not typical nursery stock.  
@AndyK I totally agree, i will probably and will probably wait a year longer before I do anything with it except fertilise and let it gain some vigor. I have enough to work on in the spring already!

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**Author:** ![AndyK](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.bonsaimirai.com/andyk/32/2330_2.png) [@AndyK](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/u/AndyK)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://forum.bonsaimirai.com/t/birds-nest-spruce/3743/7 "2019-07-25T06:57:08Z")

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I have a small needle spruce which has put on very little growth this year, but then it was hit hard with vine weevil last year.
